How do we have honest, respectful, and Bible-centered conversations on race and unity? What do we do with our fears of saying or doing the wrong thing, or not saying or doing the right thing? How do we bring together empathy, care, and appropriate action on one hand, and careful thinking using biblical categories and goals on the other?

In his letter to the Ephesians, Paul writes this: “I, therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph. 4:1-6). Paul’s message here is one that urges the Ephesians to pursue unity with God and one another. In our current cultural moment, this timeless message of unity is one that we desperately need.

The conversations going on in our world right now in regard to race and unity are crucial. But how do we have these conversations in a way that is both helpful and biblical? You may be running into this problem of wanting to help, but being afraid to say or do the wrong thing. That’s why this week on the podcast Jonathan sits down with our new friend Monique Duson, the president and founder of The Center for Biblical Unity. Join us this week as we discuss why it’s important to start with the idea that God gives us our identity, how to think carefully about race using biblical categories, the differences between the gospel and critical race theory, how to move forward in biblical unity, and much more!

Monique Duson is the founder and president of The Center for Biblical Unity, which aims to use Scripture to define humanity, race, racism, and justice. Monique’s vision is to promote a vision for racial healing based on the historic Christian worldview. She has a BA in Sociology from Biola University and is currently pursuing an MA in Theology from Talbot School of Theology. Monique contributed to the upcoming book Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth, and is hosting the first annual UP conference with [Women in Apologetics. You can connect with Monique and CFBU at

For more resources listed on today’s podcast, check out:

The Third Option by Miles McPherson and Oneness Embraced by Tony Evans.